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	<title>Comments on: PubMed Central ready for the Semantic Web and Open Data?</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Miller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2008/02/pubmed_central_ready_for_the_s.php/comment-page-1#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete - exactly!

Want to try?  :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete &#8211; exactly!</p>
<p>Want to try?  <img src='http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pete Johnston</title>
		<link>http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2008/02/pubmed_central_ready_for_the_s.php/comment-page-1#comment-269</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite by coincidence, in a meeting just this morning I suggested that one could envisage delivering the functionality of the systems we tend to call &quot;repositories&quot; in a &quot;Webby&quot; way using something like the Talis Platform.

I admit I found it slightly dispiriting to look at the diagram here

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mkbergman.com/?p=416&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mkbergman.com/?p=416&lt;/a&gt;

and realise that - with one or two notable exceptions - so little of our &quot;repository&quot; metadata is, currently at least, visible in that landscape.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite by coincidence, in a meeting just this morning I suggested that one could envisage delivering the functionality of the systems we tend to call &#8220;repositories&#8221; in a &#8220;Webby&#8221; way using something like the Talis Platform.</p>
<p>I admit I found it slightly dispiriting to look at the diagram here</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mkbergman.com/?p=416" rel="nofollow">http://www.mkbergman.com/?p=416</a></p>
<p>and realise that &#8211; with one or two notable exceptions &#8211; so little of our &#8220;repository&#8221; metadata is, currently at least, visible in that landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Miller</title>
		<link>http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2008/02/pubmed_central_ready_for_the_s.php/comment-page-1#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Duncan, and thanks for the links.

I could answer at length, but maybe a comment&#039;s not the best place for that. A big difference, I think, is that we&#039;re actually able to move beyond the silo. Open Data, exposed using Open specifications like RDF, SPARQL, etc is visible and searchable across the web. Yes, the data has to sit somewhere (in a Talis Platform store, for example), but it&#039;s available for combination with other resources elsewhere in the Platform or out on the open web. The data&#039;s portable, too... so &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; can take &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt; data out of the Platform and transfer it somewhere else if required.

The Talis Platform isn&#039;t a straight comparison with a document repository like DSpace. Instead, it&#039;s a set of services and capabilities that make it far easier for ourselves and third party developers to produce applications that will benefit from the ability to search, manage and navigate connections between disparate resources.

If you&#039;re interested, we could set things up to let you load up data of your own, to see what it - and you - can do...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Duncan, and thanks for the links.</p>
<p>I could answer at length, but maybe a comment&#8217;s not the best place for that. A big difference, I think, is that we&#8217;re actually able to move beyond the silo. Open Data, exposed using Open specifications like RDF, SPARQL, etc is visible and searchable across the web. Yes, the data has to sit somewhere (in a Talis Platform store, for example), but it&#8217;s available for combination with other resources elsewhere in the Platform or out on the open web. The data&#8217;s portable, too&#8230; so <em>you</em> can take <em>your</em> data out of the Platform and transfer it somewhere else if required.</p>
<p>The Talis Platform isn&#8217;t a straight comparison with a document repository like DSpace. Instead, it&#8217;s a set of services and capabilities that make it far easier for ourselves and third party developers to produce applications that will benefit from the ability to search, manage and navigate connections between disparate resources.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested, we could set things up to let you load up data of your own, to see what it &#8211; and you &#8211; can do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Hull</title>
		<link>http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2008/02/pubmed_central_ready_for_the_s.php/comment-page-1#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Hull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Paul, I&#039;m interested in what you think makes the Talis platform (and the semantic web) different to all the other &quot;silos&quot; that are on offer? What do you suppose they offer that no other content management systems do? Is Talis Open Source software like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dspace.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DSpace&lt;/a&gt; for example, as this is often an important requirement for scientists?

As far as Open Access goes, Peter Murray-Rust is a good start but you might  also find the following (Open Access) papers useful background if you are interested.

Cheers, Duncan

Matthew Cockerill (2005) &lt;a href=&quot;http://dx.doi.org/10.1186/1471-2105-6-140&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BMC bioinformatics comes of age&lt;/a&gt;. BMC Bioinformatics, 6

Gunter Eysenbach (2006) &lt;a href=&quot;http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pbio.0040157&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Citation advantage of open access articles&lt;/a&gt;. PLoS Biology, 4(5)

Peter Suber (2002) &lt;a href=&quot;http://dx.doi.org/10.1186/1475-4924-1-3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Open access to the scientific journal literature&lt;/a&gt;. Journal of Biology, 1(1)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Paul, I&#8217;m interested in what you think makes the Talis platform (and the semantic web) different to all the other &#8220;silos&#8221; that are on offer? What do you suppose they offer that no other content management systems do? Is Talis Open Source software like <a href="http://www.dspace.org/" rel="nofollow">DSpace</a> for example, as this is often an important requirement for scientists?</p>
<p>As far as Open Access goes, Peter Murray-Rust is a good start but you might  also find the following (Open Access) papers useful background if you are interested.</p>
<p>Cheers, Duncan</p>
<p>Matthew Cockerill (2005) <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1186/1471-2105-6-140" rel="nofollow">BMC bioinformatics comes of age</a>. BMC Bioinformatics, 6</p>
<p>Gunter Eysenbach (2006) <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pbio.0040157" rel="nofollow">Citation advantage of open access articles</a>. PLoS Biology, 4(5)</p>
<p>Peter Suber (2002) <a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1186/1475-4924-1-3" rel="nofollow">Open access to the scientific journal literature</a>. Journal of Biology, 1(1)</p>
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