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	<title>Comments on: Semantic Structures for Teaching and Learning ?</title>
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		<title>By: Pete Johnston</title>
		<link>http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2007/11/semantic_structures_for_teachi.php/comment-page-1#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

FWIW, in the session on Wednesday, I did try to plug the interest in &quot;linked data&quot; and other practical applications of the &quot;mid-lower levels&quot; of the SemWeb layer-cake - the sort of things I think Mikael is referring to as &quot;class 2&quot; in his post here

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mikaelnilsson.blogspot.com/2007/11/position-paper-on-semantic-technologies.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mikaelnilsson.blogspot.com/2007/11/position-paper-on-semantic-technologies.html&lt;/a&gt;

Also I wholeheartedly agree with your comment that &quot;Almost no one is really engaging in a conversation that explains and demonstrates the ways in which semantic technologies might improve current applications and make new applications better.&quot;

Indeed, someone asked the question, &quot;OK, why should I, as the developer of an application that supports SRU, OAI-PMH, XML etc (i.e. a class 1 app in Mikael&#039;s classification), be interested in exposing RDF data?&quot; (or words to that effect).

And I couldn&#039;t help feeling that what we were missing was a couple of nice little demonstrator applications that showed - not told, showed ;-) - why that step would indeed be a valuable one to take. Even just to enable the simple - but hugely important - things like merging data from distributed sources.

And, yes, as you say, those demonstrators need to have a presentation layer that doesn&#039;t terrify the non-graph-reading majority!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>FWIW, in the session on Wednesday, I did try to plug the interest in &#8220;linked data&#8221; and other practical applications of the &#8220;mid-lower levels&#8221; of the SemWeb layer-cake &#8211; the sort of things I think Mikael is referring to as &#8220;class 2&#8243; in his post here</p>
<p><a href="http://mikaelnilsson.blogspot.com/2007/11/position-paper-on-semantic-technologies.html" rel="nofollow">http://mikaelnilsson.blogspot.com/2007/11/position-paper-on-semantic-technologies.html</a></p>
<p>Also I wholeheartedly agree with your comment that &#8220;Almost no one is really engaging in a conversation that explains and demonstrates the ways in which semantic technologies might improve current applications and make new applications better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, someone asked the question, &#8220;OK, why should I, as the developer of an application that supports SRU, OAI-PMH, XML etc (i.e. a class 1 app in Mikael&#8217;s classification), be interested in exposing RDF data?&#8221; (or words to that effect).</p>
<p>And I couldn&#8217;t help feeling that what we were missing was a couple of nice little demonstrator applications that showed &#8211; not told, showed <img src='http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8211; why that step would indeed be a valuable one to take. Even just to enable the simple &#8211; but hugely important &#8211; things like merging data from distributed sources.</p>
<p>And, yes, as you say, those demonstrators need to have a presentation layer that doesn&#8217;t terrify the non-graph-reading majority!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Gosetti-Murrayjohn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.talis.com/nodalities/2007/11/semantic_structures_for_teachi.php/comment-page-1#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Gosetti-Murrayjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m delighted to see this call to attention for semantic web applications in teaching and learning.   There&#039;s a fundamental similarity: when we teach, we ask students to carefully articulate abstract relationships between concepts and share them with others.  Just like RDF.  Not that first-year students should take a course in RDF and OWL, but that the similarity seems to beg for semantic web applications in teaching and learning.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m delighted to see this call to attention for semantic web applications in teaching and learning.   There&#8217;s a fundamental similarity: when we teach, we ask students to carefully articulate abstract relationships between concepts and share them with others.  Just like RDF.  Not that first-year students should take a course in RDF and OWL, but that the similarity seems to beg for semantic web applications in teaching and learning.</p>
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